Charlie Wilkins
Photography: Allen Ying
Words by Keir Johnson
Charlie, how did skateboarding first spark your awareness?
I actually started to learn how to skateboard in 1985. My brother, Ben, bought a Nash board from K-Mart. Because I always looked up to my big brother I wanted to learn, too. But that wasnt my first encounter with skateboarding. I remember one of my friends skating around on an old crappy plastic board from the 70s. That was probably 1982. I remember being fascinated that he could actually stand on the thing. I tried it out for a second and jumped right off. It felt like I was trying to keep my balance on a banana peel, and I liked the challenge. Maybe that was why I was so eager to try my brothers board.
After you found out about skating, how did you progress into actually being a skateboarder? What kind of early experiences did you have?
My family lived on a dead-end street so my brother and I used to just skate up and down the street and butt board down the hill at the end. It took a while for either of us to get the balls to try standing up down the hill. For us, the whole first year or so of skateboarding was just messing around. We had never seen a skateboarding video or magazine, mostly because there really werent too many. Eventually, we met some other skaters in the area who showed us how to do some tricks. We learned ollies, powerslides, and acid drops, and after that we built some crappy jump ramps and learned how to early-grab off those. I had judos, Japans, and 360s down. Then, in 1987, our family took a summer road trip all the way across the country. When we made it out to Venice Beach, there were guys doing kickflips, wall rides, and ho-ho plants. I was blown away! This was all super advanced for the day. I spent the next eight months trying to learn kickflips.
Nice. When you got back home did your skating change?
Not long after that summer trip, my brother and I started heading in to Boston for the whole day. He was my guide. Somehow he knew all the spots in the city and how to get to them. Skating in the city was a lot different than skating my dead-end street. There were real skate spots, there were other skaters who ripped, and there was an actual skate scene. I really learned how to skate the city during that time. Not just a single spot, but hitting shit on the way to other spots. Boston is so small that you can basically skate across the whole city in a day.
As you started to learn more about skating locally, what videos did you watch early on that impressed you?
Its funny. There have been different videos at different points in my life that have totally blown me away. The first was The Bones Brigade Video Show which was Powell Peraltas first video, and really the first modern skate video ever. During that summer trip was the first time I saw it, and it opened my mind to what could be done on a skateboard. Before that we were only messing around. If youve never seen it before, YouTube it. Its a bit campy, but the skating is amazing for the day. Follow it up with Future Primitive. Then there was the one-two punch of Shackle Me Not and Hockus Pokus. Those videos planted the seed of modern day street skating.
Trick: Bump Ollie
Photography: Allen Ying
No doubt! What was the first demo you ever saw?
The first time I ever saw pros skate in person was at a Powell Peralta demo at ZT Maximus around 1989. All they had there at the time was a 6 mini with huge coping and a 9 baby vert ramp that went straight to vert. Kevin Harris did a mean freestyle demo on the flat bottom but it was, of course, Tony Hawk who stole the show. I think that was the only McTwist that vert ramp ever saw. Cool thing was, Tony was trying no grab backside kickflips. That was so far advanced for the time. There are only a few guys who do em now.
Thats rad. Speaking of ZT Maximus, youre one of the most well-known guys who skated there. Can you kick some history on the place?
Well, when I started going to ZTs, it was right after the Powell demo. The place partially housed Zitos go-cart shop and the rest was a dusty shop and the 2 half pipes. It smelled like weed and there were a bunch of older, gnarly vert skaters shredding. There was even a guy skating the big ramp in all black full hockey protective gear. Years later, that guy became my friend, and Im stoked to see Kevin Day still ripping it up at the C-Bowl to this day. It was a pretty intimidating place for a kid from the suburbs who hadnt skated anything over 6 high. Years later, Doug and Ram bought it off Zito and they added a street course and dropped the ZT part of the name. They ran it for a long time off the meager skate bucks they would collect to help pay the bills. It was a bit rough around the edges, but it was the best. It was what a skatepark should be because thats what real skateboarding is: never polished. Eventually, enough press shed too much light on the place and they had to spend tons of money bringing it up to code. It didnt help that the owners were buddies with almost every skater that went there, so everyone felt like they shouldnt have to pay to skate. Shortly after all that, it closed. Theres no money in a true gritty skatepark. Its done for the love of it, and theyre good while they last. I miss that place.
Im glad I got to session there while it was still around. What about the C-Bowl across the street? Can you talk about that spot as well?
The Cambridge Pool is another spot that was heavily sessioned before I started going there, but its right across the street from ZTs. 12 deep with a kink to 3 of vert. The first photo I saw of it was of Kevin Day. He had an ad for Jobless Skate Wear in the late 80s doing a waist high mute air out of the thing. We used to stop there on our way to ZTs and carve up on the vert. That was about it for me back then. C-Bowl is still gnarly today. Most people dont do airs out of it, lots of lip tricks. Dougie Death, Eastie, and Ram all killed it. There is a big list and most are still sneaking through the fence before they fill it on Memorial Day. The hardest thing done there is carving over all three death boxes. There are only a few guys who have done it.
Wow. Yeah, that spot is legendary. Getting back to you, who was your first sponsor ever?
I had moved to Boston in 1993 to go to Northeastern University. I started skating in the city all the time and became friends with the big-name Boston skaters
guys like Robbie Gangemi and Jahmal Williams. Jahmal knew Mike Vallely from when he skated for TV Skateboards. Mike had just gotten back on Powell Skateboards and was revamping the team from the low point it was in at the time. He was coming to town to do a demo at Maximus with Steve Caballero, Danny Wainwright, and a few other ams. Jahmal told me that Mike was looking for other riders for Powell and said I should go to the demo to meet and skate with Mike. Needless to say, I skated my ass off, as these were two legends I grew up admiring. The most rad thing from that demo was when Stevie Cab told me he liked my skating when he and I were skating the vert ramp together. After the demo, Mike came up to me, gave me a board and a set of Swiss bearings, and told me hed call me about going on summer tour in a month. I also remember Mike saying that it was my first tour and it could be my last. Not because of my skating, but how I handled the whole idea of being on a team and doing demos and talking to kids. It was a good lesson and we had many more tours together. Thanks, Jahmal.
Trick: Ollie into Bank
Photography: Allen Ying
Sounds like quite a memorable experience. Do you have other memories of your skating in the early 90s?
Yeah, I got some free stuff from Toxic Skateboards through a distributor sponsor. The shop I rode for, called Something Else, had a deal with them to try and help sell Toxic stuff in the area. This was the early 90s. I remember riding some Toxic 39ers
thats 39mm wheels kids. My first photo in TWS was a noseblunt slide in a XXL tee. Skateboarding in the early 90s was kinda fucked.
Who did you turn pro for?
Powell. I turned pro for them in 96 or 97 but, at the time, the powers that be felt there were too many pro boards in the market. So, the only pro boards they made were for Cab, Mike V., Ellis, and Santarosa. Jon Comer, Danny Wainwright, Gershon Mosley, and I were all pros as well, but without a model. They finally started working on my board when Mike V., Stacy Lowery, and I left to do Transit Skateboards. My first pro board came out then, but it wasnt too good. My second board was way better. It was a Trans Am fire chicken graphic. Kick Ass!
What videos have you had full parts in?
My first full part was in Powells Scenic Drive. Then Manzoori hooked it up for Sheep Shoes, Life of Leisure. An independent video by P-Stone called Justice. Maples Black Cat. And for 5boro, Word of Mouth and New York New York. I had bits, pieces, and almost parts in a bunch of other videos and 411s.
I need to check out that Sheep video again. It was sick. Besides Powell, who else have you been pro for?
Transit and Maple.
How do you manage to be such a versatile skater?
Ever since I was a kid I wanted to skate vert, but there werent any around when I was growing up, so I skated street. Then I built a bunch of different minis over the years in my parents backyard. Thats where I learned how to skate tranny. I love street skating because there are no boundaries and you are constantly finding new terrain. And vert is fun because there are so many new tricks to learn. Plus, there is no feeling like doing a big backside air.
These days its rare to see kids from the East Coast who can really kill it on both street and vert. What would you say have been the most challenging tricks youve ever done on vert?
I really havent focused on vert enough to really learn the tricks Id like to do. I always said I wanted to learn a McTwist before I die. I better get started. I think the scariest, but most rewarding, trick I learned on vert was a frontside invert. Grabbing the coping on that trick is almost completely blind, and then it seems like your gonna hang up when landing it. I can thank Maximus nine-foot mini vert for help with that one.
Trick: Backside 180 Flip
Photography: Allen Ying
Whats the best tour youve ever been on?
It would have to be the AWH Distribution Stars and Bars tour. They put together a tour with a handful of pros from a few of the brands they distributed. It was Kris Markovich, Chad Knight, Tim Braunch, and myself. Plus, Mario Rubalcaba came along for the trip, Punk Rock Chris shot photos, and Kevin Furtado was our fearless leader. I gotta say right off the bat that I feel so fortunate to have skated with and gotten to know Tim. His death was a huge loss to skateboarding. But focusing on the positive, we skated super-hard at every demo and spot, had too much fun at bars, and made it the best tour Ive ever been on. Besides the fact that it such a good tour, I also met my future wife Victoria in good old Milwaukee.
Thats amazing. Another thing that comes to mind was that gnarly super kinked rail you grinded awhile back. What was the story behind that thing?
Vinnie Ponte told me about it and how to get there. Its somewhere in NJ. He (Vinnie) almost boardslid the whole thing! It was a funny rail cause it had the curved kinks, so it was a bit easier to grind, but it was also only one inch wide and about 300 feet long. It kept bucking me off like a rodeo horse. It felt great to land it though. I was just stoked I didnt rack myself.
Thats got to be a record for kinks, man. Now, getting deeper into skating, can you talk about your top 5 cities for skating?
NYC is the best because its real street skateboarding. Raw, gritty, good, bad, and it can be ugly. Boston is on the list because it is who I am. Its not the best city for skating and its not the worst. There were amazing spots that are gone now and they are building more, but every spot has something wrong with it. Bricks, cracks, cold, but its still great. Toronto is killer. Great spots and great times. The whole country of Australia is amazing. Its made for skating and skateboard culture. Gotta get back to Bondi. And I think the last should be Seoul, South Korea. Its all virgin skate spots and everything is marble. Its hard to pick only five.
Trick: Kickflip Pivot
Photography: Xeno
Lets talk about the present. How did 5Boro come about for you?
My buddy, Anthony Shetler, was skating for 5boro at the time and he told me that if I ever wanted to skate for 5boro he could talk to Steve R. The cool thing was that I had skated with Steve in NYC years before, when I was shooting a Thrasher interview. I knew how dedicated Steve is and what kind of company 5boro is. I never left the East Coast so, after skating for a bunch of companies that were based in California, riding for a real East Coast company felt right. Plus, all the guys on the team were East Coast street dogs like myself. Real skateboarders and a real skateboard company.
Definitely. 5boro is such a force in skating these days. Its great to see the company doing well. Besides being pro for 5boro, what else are you up to?
Most everything revolves around skateboarding. I went to school to learn AutoCAD and now I design skateparks for public and private parks as well as national contests. Ive also been judging contests and running summer skate camps. Other than that, I hang out with my wife and friends, build furniture, and work on my house.
Ill have to keep an eye out for some of your park designs. What are your goals for 2008?
I never know what the future will bring. I like being surprised, so I dont really have set goals. Im just thankful for what I have and everything that skateboarding has given me.
Okay Charlie. Thanks for the interview. Do you have some folks youd like to thank?
My wife Victoria, the chief Steve R. at 5boro, the whole 5boro crew past and present, all the companies and people who help me out. Gabe at DVS, Aaron at Hurley, Gina and Jeff at 888, Ron at Krux, Ying and Xeno for the photos. Erik and the crew at Skate Lair, Tabor and the boys at EB, all the guys at FOCUS, Ezra Brown, Mike Bell, my parents for letting me follow my passion, and anyone else I missed.
17 Comments
Broderick says:
IF you have been to the Cbowl you know this is one the gnarliest things ever.
Ezra says:
This is a great interview with one of my best friends. Good work on both sides on the photos and coverage.
Tim Johnson says:
Good interview bro! K/F pivot is way sick!!!
Kerry from Proletariat says:
great article-Charlie is a good dude who helped out my small shop a lot
ted at sevenply says:
charlie wilkins-yer the shit dude!...thanks for everything you've done for skateboarding and especially the shop!
whaley says:
yeah Charlie! Sick.
stu says:
Hi Vik!
Mike says:
Hi im 8 and i love skateboarding and charlie, i want to grow up to be just like you
Joe Talerico says:
your f*#@ sick yo its crazy your on the skatelair team hope t see you skating in the new skatelair fullyautomatic video looking forwatd to skating with you have fun and just be your self piece
Felipe Motta says:
It's always good seeing Charlie's stuff. I'm glad to have such an awesome person like him as a friend. Thanks for everything, Char!
Know that Brasil's doors are always opened for you, bro!
Felipe Motta, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.
MK says:
Extremely impressive you're still such a force in the skateboarding industry Charlie! You've always been such a great guy and this interview portrays you've stayed true to that. I'll be sure to look for your pro helmet for my little boy:)
Mary-Kate, CT
patrick says:
these fotos are cool!
where did you take the picture with the green fence? that's my favorite :)
Question says:
does transit skateboards still exists? who can I get in touch to get more info? thanks
Adam Whitney says:
I went to HS with this kid, havent seen him since...but KNEW that he was destined for great things..congrats
Brenden Boatright says:
Good times in Boston hanging with the boys at Copley Square in the 90's.skating the fountains and making trips to Something Else.
Good times I tell ya.just cruising around and hanging at Jahmals house on mass ave.
Kevin says:
I just randomly looked this guy up to see if he was still skating, and he is. so awesome.
Nicole says:
We were friends (and even dated for a while) way back in the day, and even then it was clear that you were destined for great things! Congrats Charlie on all that you have been able to do, and for not forgetting your roots in the "Boro's" of MA! My daughter (who's 9) want skate lessons from you! LOL!